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		<title>Horizon Hobby Shipping, policy change</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week I put in a little stock order at Horizon Hobby.  I order a lot of stuff from them, and after many orders I have a real good idea of how long the shipping interval is from their California Warehouse, and also the Champaign IL location.  For the last few years it&#8217;s been my [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_476" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 260px"><a href="http://rcflyers.mirafiori.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Sleeping_old_man_by_AlexandrosIII.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-476" title="Sleeping_old_man_by_AlexandrosIII" src="http://rcflyers.mirafiori.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Sleeping_old_man_by_AlexandrosIII-250x300.jpg" alt="" width="250" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Waiting for a Horizon Hobby order to arrive</p></div>
<p>Last week I put in a little stock order at <a href="http://www.horizonhobby.com/">Horizon Hobby</a>.  I order a lot of stuff from them, and after many orders I have a real good idea of how long the shipping interval is from their California Warehouse, and also the Champaign IL location. </p>
<p>For the last few years it&#8217;s been my experience that orders filled from the CA warehouse get to the Bay Area in 2-3 days, tops.  If you want something for the weekend, you order by Tuesday, and you should be set for Friday.  It is important to note that this is when you use the $4.99 shipping option.</p>
<p>Last week, I placed an order on 3/2.  I was really surprised when I did not receive the gear by Friday, and even more surprised when the stuff from IL showed up!</p>
<p>I tracked the package, and noticed that the tracking had been handed over to &#8216;Mail Innovations&#8217;, which is a UPS spin-off.  According to the tracking, the package has been sitting in Petaluma since 3/4.  It arrived in the North Bay 2 days after I ordered it, but&#8217;s it&#8217;s been sitting since.</p>
<p>I phoned Horizon customer service, and I was really surprised at what I was told, verbatim by the customer service rep:</p>
<p>- The tracking on Mail Innovations items is &#8216;goofy&#8217;, and is not really useful or accurate.  This is known and understood by Horizon.</p>
<p>- The rep recommended that if tracking is important to you, that you should use another method like UPS.</p>
<p>- These Mail Innovations packages can take up to three weeks to deliver.  I asked her to repeat this three times.<br />
When I asked her what I should do if my order did not turn up, she said I should wait another week until Monday, 3/15.</p>
<p>None of this is very good for the Horizon Hobby customer in California.  </p>
<p>We used to be able to spend $5 on shipping and get a small order out to the Bay Area in 2-3 days.</p>
<p>Now, we are told we should wait 2-3 weeks for the same service, and if we don&#8217;t like that we should start spending more on shipping.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there are extenuating circumstances that caused this, but I would expect some kind of warning from Horizon either as part of the order process, or a bulletin on their website. </p>
<p>Put plainly, this change, and this poor performance is not what I would have expected from a company like Horizon, especially without notification.  And, when their customer service people tell me that the solution is just to start spending 40% more on shipping, I&#8217;m tempted to start shopping around.</p>
<p>**Update 5/2010**</p>
<p>A couple months have gone by since I wrote this, and shipping times have returned to what we always considered normal.  Couple-few days from the CA warehouse, maybe 1 or so more around Xmas.</p>
<p>So, in retrospect I think that the problem I experienced was a fluke.  The subsequent communication problem I had with the service rep at Horizon complicated matters, but who knows, maybe I was a little cranky that day.</p>
<p>Horizon has always been a solid resource for the hobby, and it&#8217;s awful nice to have reliable, inexpensive pretty-quick shipping.  Special thanks to Beth at Horizon for getting in touch and making sure that all of my questions or concerns were answered honestly by the right people!</p>
<p>- Eli</p>
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		<title>The Hobby Spending litmus test</title>
		<link>http://rcflyers.mirafiori.com/2009/12/07/the-hobby-spending-litmus-test/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[How much did you spend on the hobby in 2009?  How much will you spend wrapping up Xmas, and how many of you will receive gift certificates that will be spent before year&#8217;s end? I think I must have spent too much this year, because the mailman brought me a little Xmas gift from Horizon [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much did you spend on the hobby in 2009?  How much will you spend wrapping up Xmas, and how many of you will receive gift certificates that will be spent before year&#8217;s end?</p>
<div id="attachment_416" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 210px"><a href="http://rcflyers.mirafiori.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/P1030246_web.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-416" title="P1030246_web" src="http://rcflyers.mirafiori.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/P1030246_web-200x300.jpg" alt="Gift from Horizon Hobby" width="200" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Gift from Horizon Hobby</p></div>
<p>I think I must have spent too much this year, because the mailman brought me a little Xmas gift from <a href="http://www.horizonhobby.com/" target="_blank">Horizon </a>today. </p>
<p> It&#8217;s a nice little aluminum water bottle, came with a card and a discount code good for 20% off a single order.   Thanks Horizon! </p>
<p>I contrast that to my other experiences &#8211; I&#8217;ve been trying to get a return call from somebody (anybody?) over at Hobby-Lobby for over a week now.     Their customer service has really gone to hell in the last few years, and I think I may have placed my last order with those guys.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s interesting that the hobby industry has not been hit as hard as other &#8216;non essential&#8217; industries, and it&#8217;s encouraging to see companies like Horizon succeed.   I can only hope that the recession causes other, less responsive firms to either tighten up the ship or get into a different business.</p>
<p>Happy Holidays,</p>
<p>- Eli</p>
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