03.08
Last week I put in a little stock order at Horizon Hobby. I order a lot of stuff from them, and after many orders I have a real good idea of how long the shipping interval is from their California Warehouse, and also the Champaign IL location.
For the last few years it’s been my experience that orders filled from the CA warehouse get to the Bay Area in 2-3 days, tops. If you want something for the weekend, you order by Tuesday, and you should be set for Friday. It is important to note that this is when you use the $4.99 shipping option.
Last week, I placed an order on 3/2. I was really surprised when I did not receive the gear by Friday, and even more surprised when the stuff from IL showed up!
I tracked the package, and noticed that the tracking had been handed over to ‘Mail Innovations’, which is a UPS spin-off. According to the tracking, the package has been sitting in Petaluma since 3/4. It arrived in the North Bay 2 days after I ordered it, but’s it’s been sitting since.
I phoned Horizon customer service, and I was really surprised at what I was told, verbatim by the customer service rep:
- The tracking on Mail Innovations items is ‘goofy’, and is not really useful or accurate. This is known and understood by Horizon.
- The rep recommended that if tracking is important to you, that you should use another method like UPS.
- These Mail Innovations packages can take up to three weeks to deliver. I asked her to repeat this three times.
When I asked her what I should do if my order did not turn up, she said I should wait another week until Monday, 3/15.
None of this is very good for the Horizon Hobby customer in California.
We used to be able to spend $5 on shipping and get a small order out to the Bay Area in 2-3 days.
Now, we are told we should wait 2-3 weeks for the same service, and if we don’t like that we should start spending more on shipping.
I’m sure there are extenuating circumstances that caused this, but I would expect some kind of warning from Horizon either as part of the order process, or a bulletin on their website.
Put plainly, this change, and this poor performance is not what I would have expected from a company like Horizon, especially without notification. And, when their customer service people tell me that the solution is just to start spending 40% more on shipping, I’m tempted to start shopping around.
**Update 5/2010**
A couple months have gone by since I wrote this, and shipping times have returned to what we always considered normal. Couple-few days from the CA warehouse, maybe 1 or so more around Xmas.
So, in retrospect I think that the problem I experienced was a fluke. The subsequent communication problem I had with the service rep at Horizon complicated matters, but who knows, maybe I was a little cranky that day.
Horizon has always been a solid resource for the hobby, and it’s awful nice to have reliable, inexpensive pretty-quick shipping. Special thanks to Beth at Horizon for getting in touch and making sure that all of my questions or concerns were answered honestly by the right people!
- Eli


Hey Eli,
If you want to give me a call to discuss, please feel free. (I’m really sorry to be posting on here, but I can’t figure out how to find you in our system with just your first name.) We stumbled across your post here in the consumer division and were concerned, so I have my Logistics guy looking into it because that is so not what we signed up for with UPSMI!
I’m the consumer sales manager and my name is Beth. Feel free to give me a call if you like. I’m really sorry that this happened–we will definitely get the situation fixed because we can’t be having that kind of shipping delay.
It’s good to see Horizon taking this seriously, as we all spend a good chunk of coin with them every year. Not only online, but also from the local dealer network.